See record note of discussion to Agenda items – meeting of NAF with Dy. CAG on 23rd November, 2016.
Demand No. 1 – Proposal for approval of RR to the post of Audit Manager has been sent to the Ministry of Finance. Matter is being pursued with MOF. A reminder D.O. to Joint Secretary (P) MOF has been issued vide dated 25-11-2015.
Demand No. 3 – Federation was informed that a reference seeking confirmation regarding applicability of the recommendation of 7th CPC for grant of GP Rs. 5400/- to AAOS with 4 years of service has been made to the Implementation Cell and MOF. The reply to the same is awaited.
Demand No. 5 – It was informed that the proposal to revise the RRS for the post of Sr. Auditor has been forwarded to the MOF containing the provision for Direct Recruitment of Sr. Auditor level.
Demand No. 6 – Whenever the vacancies in AAOS Cadre fall below 15%, this scheme would cease to exist and no further promotion to the additional post of supervisor would be made. Keeping in view the huge vacancies reversion of supervision is unlikely. However, if specific, proposal are received to create a supernumerary post from any office, the same will be examined.
Demand No. 7 – Federation was informed that a reference proposing GP of Rs. 5400/- to Hindi officers has been made to MOF vide H. Qtrs. letter dated 09-06-2016. Reply from ministry is awaited.
Demand No. 8 – Providing unlimited number of chances to candidates gives rise to casual approach on the part of candidates. To check non seriousness, number of attempts has been decided as six. Further, 4 additional chances have been allowed to those who passed 5 papers out of 9 papers. Therefore, 10 attempts should be sufficient to clear 9 papers.
Demand No. 11 – Federation was informed that in respect of promotion of DEOS to the post of Auditors under examination quota revision of RRS is in process and on notification of RRS, DEOS will become eligible to appear in the Dept. examination for Auditors.
The above assurances appear in the minutes of meeting held on 23-11-2016 between NAF & Dy. CAG. If the program given by NAF is implemented seriously few more demands may be accepted and the above assurances may be implemented early.
Congratulations to them who have implemented the 1st part of the program seriously within stipulated period of time. Others are being requested to do so seriously.
New Delhi A. K. Das
Dt.: 24-06-2017 President
National Audit Federation
CONFEDERATION OF AUDIT & ACCOUNTS EMPLOYEES & OFFICERS’ ORGANISATIONS
15/31 (1st Floor), VASUNDHARA, P.O. VASUNDHARA-201012
CAMP: PUNE DATE: 28 NOVEMBER 2016
The Executive Committee of the Confederation of Audit & Accounts Employees and Officers’ Organisations held a meeting at National Defence Academy of Financial Management (Regional Training Centre), Pune. Shri Arun Vidwans presided over the meeting. The following members participated in the meeting:
- Shri Arun Vidwans President
- Shri A. B. Sen Secretary General
- Shri Suhash Safai Additional Secretary General
- Shri S. S. Prabhakar Finance Secretary
- Smt. Prasanna Kumari Assistant Secretary
- Shri N. D. Bloch Zonal Secretary (West Zone)
- Shri K.S.Dubey Zonal Secretary (Central Zone)
- Shri Anil Khaparde Additional Secretary, NAF
- Smt. A. Parekh Audit & Accounts Pensioners Association
- Smt. N.Prabhakar Audit & Accounts Pensioners Association
- Shri C. S. Chouhan- Audit & Accounts Pensioners Association
- Shri Liladhar Bathan- Postal Accounts 9425923459
At the outset all the members participated in well attended open meeting held here to felicitate Shri Suhash Safai who is going to retire from government service on 30th November 2016, after attaining the age of superannuation. In speeches delivered by the dignitaries and colleagues of Shri Safai it is observed that Shri Safai led a memorable active Service period in the Defence Accounts service. He earned love and respect from employees and officers. As per compulsion of CCS (RSA) Rules, Shri Safai will hand over responsibility of the Association to his successor after retirement.
The meeting took up the following agenda for discussion:-
- To discuss the deficiencies noticed in implementation of 7CPC recommendations regarding Audit and Organised Accounts cadres.
- To felicitate Shri Suhas Safai on his superannuation from government service.
- To discuss an agitation program for realization of important demands of Audit and Accounts personnel.
- To discuss about formation of Pensioners’ Association for Audit and Accounts Department’s pensioners.
- Any other matter with permission of the Chair.
The 7th CPC has made contradictory recommendations regarding pay scales of Organised Accounts Departments and IA&AD leading to undesirable implementation decisions by the government. Some instances are noted below:-
We demanded merger of posts of Accountants / auditors with Senior Accountants / Senior Auditors respectively. The Commission has not accepted our demand, however, in IA&AD Chapter it has recommended grant of Grade Pay of 4200 to Auditors/ Accountants with a rider of recruitment rules having interview after written examination for graduates in direct entry system. This condition is fulfilled only in case of direct recruits in the posts of JAO in Railways. The Railway Recruitment Board only holds interview of successful candidates in written examination.
- The IV th CPC recommended parity in pay scales of Audit and Accounts cadres and the same was accepted by the government. Therefore, implementation of the recommendation in case of JAOs of Railway Accounts can only be legitimately lead to extension of the same benefit to all similarly placed Accountants/ Auditors in the same pay sale by grant of 4200 in pre-revised pay scale. The present government has not implemented this yet. We have already taken up this matter with the government; the NFIR has taken up this issue with the Railway Board on the request of AIRASA.
- The 7CPC has recommended parity in pay scale of Senior Auditors/ Senior Accountants and Accounts Assistants of Railway Accounts with Assistants of the Central Secretariat Service. The Government has not accepted this. We have written letter to PM seeking his intervention to ensure implementation of the 7CPC report in this case.
- A section of bureaucracy has antagonistic attitude towards Audit and accounts to such extent that they did not even care to implement the decision of the Cabinet in 2008 while Government approved grant of GP of 5400 to AAOs after completion of 4 years of service. The matter was taken up by the AAOs of Defence Accounts Department in Principal bench of CAT, New Delhi. This came to our notice when the Pay Commission was finalizing there report. We immediately brought to the notice of the CPC and they have incorporated this in their recommendation. However, the government has not yet implemented the recommendation. We have written to the PM for his personal attention to this matter and cause action to ensure implementation of the recommendation of the CPC without further delay.
- Regarding pay scale of EDP, the Commission has left the matter for decision by the government. No effective decision has been taken till date by the government.
- HRA, Transport Allowance and Daily Allowance. Despite clear recommendations of the CPC the government has adopted delay tactic and referred the issues to a committee to decide. It is apprehended that the date of effect will also be from a subsequent date and not from 1.1. 2016. This meeting feels the date of effect should be effective from 1. 1. 2016.
- MACP should be effective from 1. 1. 2016.
- Recommendation of the 7CPC on Stepping up issue has to be accepted by the government.
We feel, to get the above demands clinched, a systematic agitation is required to be launched by audit & Accounts organisations. The following steps may be taken by the constituent federations under intimation to this Confederation.
- The Federations should write to the Secretary, Department of Expenditure, and Ministry of Finance for fulfillment of the above demands by 15th of December 2016.
- Observe Demands Day on 22nd December 2016 by holding General Body Meeting and passing resolution which may be forwarded to the Secretary, Department of Expenditure through proper channel.
- Observe postcard campaign on the above demands from 9th to 13th January 2017 involving all members. The post cards to be addressed to the Finance Minister of India.
- Day long Dharna may be observed on 8th February 2017 respective office premises demanding immediate settlement of the demands.
The next phase of program shall be decided after review of the progress by the National Executive Committee during second week of February 2017.
The distress faced by employees and officers working in central government Departments and the Pensioners due to demonitisation was discussed and it was decided that this Confederation shall demand payment of salary and pension in cash till the situation regarding cash availability is resolved.
On Formation of Audit and Accounts Pensioners Association.
The issue of formation of Audit and Accounts Pensioner’s was discussed and it was felt that to take up issues relating to retired personnel from Audit and Accounts Departments, a separate platform is need of the hour. After detailed discussion it was decided that an Ad-hoc committee would be formed to take up necessary steps to prepare a constitution, contact retired personnel from Audit and Accounts Department and convene next meeting to give final shape.
To start with there shall be three tier organisations, (1) Central Level Organisation (2) Departmental Level Organisation (3) State /station Level organisation of each Department.
The Central Level Organisation is constituted with the following members:
Chairman: Shri S.K.Safai
Convener: Shri S. S. Prabhakar
- Shri Bhopal Singh
- Shri P. K. Shakhuja
- Shri C.B.P.Singh
- Shri Swapan Majumder
- Shri Santosh Choudhuri
- Shri G. C. Parida
- Smt. A. Parekh
- Smt. N.Prabhakar
- Shri Bhagwan Singh Parmar
- Shri Kripashankar Srivastav
- K. Kuppu Rao
- Taizuddin Ahmed
- M. S. Rathi
- Shri R.C.P.Singh
CONFEDERATION OF AUDIT & ACCOUNTS EMPLOYEES & OFFICERS’ ORGANISATIONS
15/31 (1st Floor), VASUNDHARA, P.O. VASUNDHARA-201012
Ref: Confd./Cir./12/16 Date: December 4, 2016
Enclosed please find the copy of minutes of the NE meeting held at Pune on 28th November 2016. The meeting was very successful as well as productive, as some decisions have been taken to build up movement in protest against government’s apathy towards legitimate claims of the personnel belonging to Organised Accounts Departments and IA&AD. The constituent Federations are requested to implement the programs unanimously decided in the meeting.
Regarding the issue of grant of upgraded pay scale to AAOs as per recommendations of the 7th CPC, it is learnt that Railway Board has requested the government to implement the recommendation of the Commission by grant of GP Rs.5400 in pre-revised scale to AAOs on completion of 4 years of service. We are expecting to receive a copy of the letter of the Railway Board through good offices of the NFIR.
All he constituents are requested to send reports of implementation of the programs to the Confederation for further necessary action.
With warm greetings,
- (A. Sen)
All affiliated units’ secretaries/central office bearers/zonal/branch secretaries/
Departmental Council members/Patrons.
Minutes of Agenda Meeting with Dy. CAG on 23-November-2016
An agenda meeting was granted by Shri.P. Mukerjee, Dy. CAG on 23rd November 2016 at 3.00 pm. Shri. A.K. Das, President, Shri. Ravi Shankar, Vice President, Shri. L.S. Sujith Kumar, Secretary General, Shri. N. Shiva kumar, Addl. Secretary General and Shri. Ajai Deep Gulati, Assistant Secretary General were represented the federation. The meeting was cordial and the discussions were lasted for two hours. The details of the discussions are as follows:
|1.||Cadre restructuring – Comprehensive Cadre restructuring shall be done in IA&AD –
1. Allow time bound promotion for AAOs on completion of 6 years service
2. Increase promotional avenues for Group B officers
We have stated that the present cadre rationalistaion does not address the stagnation in the cadres and is not a solution for the career related issues of the IA&AD staff. We strongly recorded our disagreement on the scheme of cadre rationalisation which only result in reduction of posts instead of increase in the sanctioned strength. Hence, we requested to constitute a committee to study the present workload of the staff, their promotion prospects and to recommend better scheme to all the cadres including EDP cadre, Stenographer cadre, Official language cadre along with the main cadre through a comprehensive cadre restructuring of the department. We also requested to create separate promotion channel (Non-IA&AS) for AO/SAO in order to neutralize the stagnation in the department. We also requested to include the representatives of the recognised federations in the committee.
In reply to the above DAI has told us that the proposal for the creation of Non-IAAS group A posts, Audit Manager is still in the pipe-line. It was assured that in long run the number of posts will be doubled. DAI stated that there won’t be any reductions in posts as of now and directions are already issued to continue with the present recruitment plan. Also assured that the successful candidates in the current SAS examinations will be accommodated as per the SS as on 31-3-2016. DAI also agreed to constitute a committee for comprehensive cadre restructuring. He has directed the PD(Staff) to include the representatives of all the recognised federations in the committee.
|2.||Review of Sector wise Reorganisation of Audit offices
We have demanded for a review of the implementation of Sector wise re-organisation of Audit offices and to initiate rectification of lapses. NAF also requested to streamline the scheme and to make it uniform in all the states and to follow the list of major minor heads for the segregation of departments under various sectors. It was also demanded to abolish the Director General (Central) offices.
DAI has categorically denied all the above demands stating that the process of sectoral bifurcation of audit offices is now over and already streamlined hence no reversal of the scheme is possible. He also stated that the non implementation of the scheme in Maharashtra was due to the specific orders of the CAG of India. It was also stated that the LMMH provisions are not followed in some states because of the prevailing state government setup. However, he has agreed to review specific issues, if any, pointed out by the federation.
|3.||Grant Grade Pay 5400 (6cpc) to all those at GP4800 as per para 11.12.140 of 7cpc recommendations
We requested the CAG to grant 5400 to all those at GP 4800 (6cpc) to 5400 in PB2 after four years service as per the recommendations of the 7CPC without delay.
DAI replied that the department has strongly recommended this to the 7CPC. But the recommendations are only recorded in the defence accounts chapter and not in the IAAD chapter of the 7CPC report. Hence, requested clarification from the government. It was also stated that the CAG authorities are pursuing the matter with the Government of India.
|4.||Grant parity to Sr. Auditors with Assistants of Central Secretariat
We have requested to issue directions to restore the lost parity with Central Secretariat Services.
It is replied that there is no such recommendation in the 7CPC report relating to the IAAD. However, agreed to discuss the same in the cadre restructuring issue.
|5.||Direct recruitment in Sr. Auditor cadre – Merge Auditor with Sr. Auditor cadre and grant Grade pay 4600 – Increase promotional avenues
We have demanded to merge Auditor/Senior Auditor cadre, grant GP 4600 (6CPC) and to derive a similar system for appointment/ promotion to that of CSS in our department also.
DAI has not agreed for merging of cadres and giving promotion without passing SAS examinations. He stated that the recruitment rules for Sr.Adr cadre is under scrutiny of UPSC and will be issued shortly.
|6.||Supervisor cadre – Regularize temporary promotions (additional 6%) given in the cadre, Reversion should not be made to those who already promoted. Create supernumerary posts.
We have demand for the regularization of temporary promotions given in the Supervisor cadre and also demanded that the temporarily promoted Supervisors, who are under the threat of reversion, shall be allowed to continue on supernumerary basis.
It was assured that the temporarily promoted Supervisors will continue and there won’t be any reversion in the name of cadre rationalization. But the regularization of these temporary promotions not agreed.
|7.||Grant Grade Pay 5400/- to Hindi Officers
We have demanded to grant Grade Pay of 5400 to Hindi Officers on the basis of the circulars issued by the Rajbhasha department.
DAI stated that the issue is under active consideration. It was also told that presently the streamlining of the main cadres in IA&AD are taking place and after that the issue of Hindi officers will also be considered.
1. SAS examinations
2. Allow SAS passed candidates from audit offices to exercise option for posting in offices of their choice as per Recruitment Rule.
3. CPD/RAE/Incentive Examinations
We have demanded to Provide model question papers, remove negative marking scheme, reduce pass marks to 40 and allow unlimited chances. It was also demanded to allow Assistant Audit Officers working in other audit offices to exercise option for posting in office of their choice as per recruitment rule.
We strongly demand to allow un-limited chances to clear CPD/RAE/ Incentive examinations. We have also demanded to extend two more mercy chances to audit employees similar to that provided to accounts staff recently.
DAI has not agreed in any of the demands above. However, it was told that there will not be any problem in giving extension for those AAOs on deputation in other audit offices. It was told that the accounts staff who could not attend the two accounts papers because of non conduct of examination in A&E for several years are only allowed to appear for two extra chances and hence the facility can not be extended to audit staff.
|9.||UN Audit – Dies-non shall not be treated as ineligibility for applying to overseas deputations including UN Audit.
We requested that “Dies-non” shall not be treated as ineligibility for applying to overseas deputations including UN Audit.
DAI has not agreed to this demand.
|10.||Restore unilateral Transfer
We have request the Dy. CAG to lift the ban on unilateral transfer in a phased manner to avoid erosion of manpower and to give the newcomers a hope/chance to return to their home state in near future.
DAI has not agreed to this demand. However, he stated that the option of deputation and mutual transfer are open for such staff.
|11.||Allow promotion for DEOs to Auditor Cadre
We have requested to fulfill the promises made by DAI on 13-11-2014, allowing promotions for DEOs in Auditor cadre, without further delay.
DAI stated that the issue has already considered by the headquarters and recruitment rule has also been finalized. Department has now submitted the RR for Sr.Auditor cadre to the government and waiting for its approval. Both the RRs will be published simultaneously.
|12.||Sports quota recruitment – include the game of Volley ball also in the recruitment list
DAI stated that presently recruitment process for 5 sports/games disciplines are going on and once sufficient members are recruited in each office, the inclusion of volley ball will also be considered.
|13.||Merge Local Fund Audit with Civil Audit in Jharkhand and West Bengal offices
We have demanded for the merging of LFA wing with civil wing and to maintain a single gradation/seniority list in the state of Jharkand, West Bengal and Bihar.
DAI has assured that the issue will be examined. However he has raised concern over the seniority position of staff in these offices.
(L.S. Sujith Kumar)
Myself and Shri.Arun Vidwans representing the NAF, had a meeting today morning with Madam. Annie G Mathew, Joint Secretary, Department of Expenditure, Government of India. It was told that the issue of 5400 after 4 years relating to the staff of IA&AD was turned down by the implementation cell stating that the 7CPC has not recommended the same in the IA&AD chapter, rather it has recommended for a normal replacement. But the Deputy Secretary (Expenditure) after careful examination of the issue, reverted the file stating that, though there is no mention in the IA&AD chapter, the same has been clearly recommended in the Defence Accounts Chapter and hence shall be reconsidered. We are pursuing the matter with the Implementation Cell also. So it is not a good news for the time being. Some officers are still playing mischief. But I am sure that the final decision will be on our favour.